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2022.01.27 20:33 tehhammerz Comparing Croatia's squads in order to (maybe) figure out what should be done - a uselessly long post
TL;DR at start because it really is too long: I ramble on about various national teams of Croatia, I say a lot of words but I kinda say nothing, it has no real point because even while researching I realised no real patterns can be drawn, but I discussed possible approaches for the future and the past came in handy. Might be a solid read if you hate yourself. I only wrote this because I had too much free time and felt this subreddit needs more content.
In 1996, Croatia won the gold medal at the Olympics. However, in 1997, Croatia would only finish 13th at the World Championship, and followed that up with an 8th place at the European Championship in 1998. In 2022, Croatia matched that 8th place, and the tournaments before that can form an interesting pattern with some mental gymnastics applied. The 15th place from the 2021 World Championship is Croatia's worst result in history - a title previously held by the aforementioned 1997 WC, and the year prior, Croatia played in the final of the European Championship. Not quite Olympics, but that's a final in 2020 and a final in 1996.
1997 is also memorable because it started a drought, Croatia's longest period without a medal, with 6 tournaments in a row of finishing 6th or below + the 2000 Olympics, which Croatia didn't even qualify for. The longest drought if we don't count this run of 7 tournaments is 2016 Olympics - 2019 World Championships, so only 4 tournaments… showing Croatians are used to winning medals. 2 disappointing tournaments in a row + the 2021 Olympics which Croatia failed to qualify for means that if Croatia fails to win a medal at next year's World Championships, their biggest drought in the last 20 years will be equalled – and while 4 tournaments in a row isn't a lot, Croatian fans are growing increasingly frustrated with their team's recent performances, and have split into two big factions: one is calling for the head of the current coach and thinks he should resign, and the other is hoping for him to stay and lead Croatia's next generation. What's the best move here? I honestly don't know, lmao, so this isn't the topic of the post. I feel he deserves another chance though, and the federation shouldn't pull the trigger on him prematurely like they did with Babić. On the other hand, 2022 is coincidentally the 20 year anniversary of Croatia's worst ever finish at a tournament, coming 16th out of 16 in the 2002 European Championship, which caused the people in charge to panic and appoint a new coach… a certain Lino Červar. This will be discussed later as well, though.
However, what this post will look at is another interesting debate I've come across, which is whether the squad needs to actually go through a generational switch (something similar to what Poland has been doing recently) or to call up older players, because the best players should always be playing. Again, I won't be picking sides here, but I'll tell you one thing. You've been blinded by Lučin – he wasn't included on the original list for this tournament, and if it wasn't for the wave of replacements needed, he wouldn't have played. The original list for the 2022 World Championship will be included below, because I feel it accomplishes neither of the sides' request – but the main part of this post are some historical squads which will be included as well, namely the 1996 Olympics, 1997 World Championship and 1998 European Championship in one section; the 2002 European Championship (where Croatia finished dead last) and 2003 World Championship in another section and the 2020 European Championship and 2021 World Championship in the final section.
As I'm not a handball expert and wasn't actively following in 1996-1998 or in 2002-2003, I won't really analyse these squads. I'll only compare the similarities and list the player ages, to see what sort of approach was taken back then and how it compares to the present-day squad.
(it was quite difficult to find squads from this period, so they may not be 100% accurate, but I tried to include every player who made an appearance, based on the match report archives I found online; goalkeepers will occupy the top few positions in the table, while others are more random than anything, no real order to them)
Bold = new addition from the last posted squad; italics = returning player
|1996 Olympics ||1997 World Championship ||1998 European Championship |
|Venio Losert (19) ||Venio Losert (20) ||Venio Losert (21) |
|Valter Matošević (26) ||Valter Matošević (26) ||Mario Kelentrić (25) |
|(no third goalkeeper) ||Mirko Bašić (36) ||Mirko Bašić (37) |
|Vladimir Jelčić (27) ||Vladimir Jelčić (28) ||Ivica Obrvan (31) |
|Patrik Ćavar (25) ||Patrik Ćavar (25) ||Patrik Ćavar (26) |
|Goran Perkovac (33) ||Goran Perkovac (34) ||Egon Paljar (23) |
|Zoran Mikulić (30) ||Tomislav Farkaš (25) ||Zoran Mikulić (32) |
|Iztok Puc (29) ||Iztok Puc (30) ||Tihomir Baltić (21) |
|Valner Franković (28) ||Zvonimir Bilić (25) ||Darko Galić (unknown, late 20s) |
|Irfan Smajlagić (34) ||Irfan Smajlagić (35) ||Ratko Tomljanović (31) |
|Zlatko Saračević (35) ||Zlatko Saračević (35) ||Zlatko Saračević (36) |
|Vladimir Šujster (24) ||Mirza Džomba (19) ||Mirza Džomba (20) |
|Božidar Jović (24) ||Božidar Jović (24) ||Božidar Jović (25) |
|Alvaro Načinović (30) ||Mladen Prskalo (28) ||Mario Bjeliš (21) |
|Nenad Kljaić (29) ||Nenad Kljaić (30) ||Nenad Kljaić (31) |
|Slavko Goluža (24) ||Slavko Goluža (25) ||Slavko Goluža (26) |
|Bruno Gudelj (30) ||(no direct replacement) ||(no direct replacement) |
So, what exactly can we see from this? Well, I don't know, honestly – as I can't tell you how much of this was affected by injuries, but I found a few conclusions. The core of the squad stayed very similar between 1996 and 1997, with only 5 players changing in the 6 months or so between the tournaments, and most of those players weren't (seemingly) too important in the 1994-1996 era, with Načinović being the only player who made a large number of appearances, and Gudelj being the only player other than him to have ever made an appearance at a big tournament in the past. Why did the team performance change so much then? Well, many would say luck, and while I don't completely disagree, I also think the fact Croatia changed their coach severely affected the team, with the team seemingly performing much worse under Ilija Puljević than Velimir Kljaić. Kljaić was brought back for the 1998 tournament, but the team performed similarly, coming 8th in Europe, compared to 13th in the world.
However, here we can see the effects of a small reshuffle, with half the squad changing between two tournaments… but in retrospect, it wasn't the most successful one. The best younger players (Losert, Ćavar, Jović, Goluža) were already in the squad in 1996 and the best player introduced in this period (Džomba) made his debut in 1997 – outside of Kelentrić, who only temporarily replaced a player of similar age, the new (or returning) players called up in 1998 were either older players who didn't make too many appearances in the past and likely weren't as good as the 1996 generation, or a few young players… who didn't really make an impact, so they possibly weren't the best choices. There was no way Kljaić could've known this in 1998 though.
This was the start of things to come though – maybe the team could've performed better in 1997, but the squad was already quite different in 1998, and not quite in the right way. Only a few younger players were called up to replace the outgoing squad members, while half the new members of the squad were players in their late 20s or early 30s with less international experience, which probably means less skill. It seems like Croatia was a bit stubborn to integrate many young players in the squad at this point, even though it was obvious a generational change was needed, and some choices made in 1998 possibly lead to the drought lasting as long as it did. And before you say that maybe there weren't any good young players to call instead... pay attention to the ages of some 2003 gold medalists. So, shall we see how the squad looked 4 and 5 years later?
|2002 European Championship ||2003 World Championship |
|Mario Kelentrić (29) ||Mario Kelentrić (30) |
|Valter Matošević (31) ||Valter Matošević (32) |
|(no third goalkeeper) ||Vlado Šola (34) |
|Davor Dominiković (23) ||Davor Dominiković (24) |
|Tonči Valčić (23) ||Tonči Valčić (24) |
|Petar Metličić (25) ||Petar Metličić (26) |
|Tihomir Baltić (25) ||Nikša Kaleb (29) |
|Zvonimir Bilić (30) ||Blaženko Lacković (22) |
|Vedran Zrnić (22) ||Vedran Zrnić (23) |
|Ivano Balić (22) ||Ivano Balić (23) |
|Mirza Džomba (24) ||Mirza Džomba (25) |
|Božidar Jović (29) ||Božidar Jović (30) |
|Igor Kos (23) ||Denis Špoljarić (23) |
|Renato Sulić (22) ||Renato Sulić (23) |
|Slavko Goluža (30) ||Slavko Goluža (31) |
|Goran Šprem (22) ||Igor Vori (22) |
After Kljaić failed again in 1999, only finishing 10th, Zdravko Zovko was appointed for 2000 and only improved slightly, finishing 6th in Europe as the host. Josip Milković succeeded him and didn't achieve much either, failing in the round of 16 for the third time in a row in 2001… and then 2002 came, where he finished dead last in Europe, notably losing by 12 goals to FR Yugoslavia in the opening game – the team which failed to win another game in the first round. This is enough introduction – I already said Červar was appointed in 2003, with Smajlagić as his assistant, and this duo brought Croatia back to the top, with the first medal after the drought being the gold in 2003, followed by ''the wooden medal'' for 4th place, but then another gold at the Olympics in Greece. However, the point of this post is the squad, not the backstory, and as we can see, just like between 1996 and 1997, the squad is extremely similar between 2002 and 2003. Only 5 players weren't there when Croatia finished last in 2002, so how was the difference so big? Well, I have some ideas, but before that… let's look at when some of these new faces were first called up.
Šola had previously made appearances in 1994 and 1995, but goalkeepers are a different story, as not even Losert, who had been included in a gold medal squad at 19, didn't make the relatively stacked teams of the early 2000s, only returning at the Olympics. However: Dominiković, Zrnić and Valčić all made their first big tournament appearance in 1999, Šprem (who missed 2003) joined in 2000, Sulić, Kaleb (who missed 2002), and Metličić in 2001. On the other hand, some players like Bjeliš and Paljar disappeared immediately after 1998. So, could some of these players have been called up sooner? Were wrong decisions made in 1998? I honestly can't tell you, as I don't know how good they were a yeatwo/three earlier, but I have found out that many of them were already starters at their clubs in 1998. Is it possible the drought lasted this long because they took so long to be integrated, because the coaches preferred to call up players in their late 20s over them, so they needed a few years to gather international experience, I don't know, but…
As I said, I'm not an expert and didn't watch these two tournaments live. However, I think the squad was still relatively young and lacked a lot of international experience in 2002, and even though the players were good, as proven by the narrower defeats to France and eventual runner-up Germany, they were still not mentally strong enough, not ready for the biggest level and just needed to mature a bit before doing big things. Hell, they weren't perfect in 2003 either, losing to Argentina (the South Americans' only win) in the opening game – they were still really young and inexperienced, but when they were at their best, they were good enough to take the gold.
What can we conclude from the first two sections? Well, I can't be certain this is the 100% right conclusion, but I feel the necessary generational change after the majority of the early-to-mid 1990s sqaud got old took longer than it needed to. It felt a bit stubborn at times, and some very good players who were already stars at their first tournaments were integrated a bit too slowly. While a drought couldn't have been prevented, I feel it could've been shorter than 7 tournaments – but I need to digress and disagree with myself, because integrating 2/3 players per tournament was possibly the right way to do it, or at least better than what could've been… because even though there was a drought of 7 tournaments, when the generational change was complete, Croatia finished in the top 5 15 times in a row
, starting with the 2003 World Championship and finishing with the 2014 European Championship. If we count 6th place as well (2015 and 2019), this amazing streak continues all the way until 2020, and is broken by the awful performance in 2021. Obviously, the squad changed between 2003 and 2020, and this is where we reach my point that this may have been the right way to do it – as there was never a need to completely rebuild the squad in this period, the core always stayed, having been trained to near-perfection, and only 2-4 new players were called up and slowly integrated per tournament.
However, before we move to the last segment, a short digression. A big digression, actually. First of all, at one point in the late 2000s, many players were notified they had no role in the national team anymore and wouldn't be called up when they were in their late 20s or early 30s, even though they were still performing and playing well. Some of them would completely retire soon after, while others stuck around and decided they'd never return, even if ''begged'' to come back. While other national teams had, and still have, players in their late 30s and even early 40s, Croatia got rid of most of its stars around 33, and by 36 they're already considered ancient. But this isn't the biggest issue.
Together with this, in the last 12-13 years, the Croatian league has been getting weaker and weaker – there's less money in it, less competitive clubs, and while many people stay quiet about this publicly and some don't quite believe it either, the president of the national federation has somewhat of a bias for (PPD) Zagreb, to the extent that players from other Croatian clubs were not allowed to be called up by the coach unless they were seen as exceptional talents (usually because the media and fans started going crazy over the fact they were ignored), while some mediocre at best players from the club were called up for big tournaments while losing and underperforming on club level… and then mysteriously never appeared on any extended squad lists again when they were sold. Interesting stuff, isn't it. But this bias isn't quite the point of this paragraph, especially considering it actually hasn't been happening as much since being called out, so let's not waste too much time on it – the point is that, with less money and the league being less competitive, it lost out on youth development quite severely. The last good player developed in Croatia at this point is… Luka Cindrić, born in 1993. You may bring up David Mandić, but his first national team callup came while he was still at Izviđač in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The most promising one currently is Martinović... born and raised in Austria, developed in Austria, played for Austria. And while there may be some skilled young players still in development in Croatia, they go unnoticed, maybe because the league is uncompetitive, and maybe because not even the national team staff pay much attention to it due to its current reputation: Jaganjac made an appearance while at Metalurg, disappeared for a while after moving to Nexe and was only rediscovered recently, young players like Načinović and Lučin both had to go to much bigger leagues (Montpellier and Ademar León) to first get noticed, as it never would've happened at Zamet, and I am not familiar enough with the national league either, so who knows if there are even more hidden talents like this who are waiting for an opportunity. And with so few young talents coming through - what can the coach even do? Call up young players and get their potential wrong, so someone calls him out for it 24 years later, like I did here with the man who called up Bjeliš and Paljar? Obviously, sometimes there are moves which are clearly wrong, and some slightly older, but very skilled players keep getting overlooked for no apparent reason, even if they're playing extremely well for their clubs in solid leagues, on a solid (at least) level. But I digress, as they still aren't the young talents you need for a generational switch. Now I've gotten this off my chest, let's see the recent squads, as well as the original 2022 squad… and give a conclusion on what could be done based on what we saw, and if there's any hope for Croatian handball considering all that has been said.
2020 European Championship|2021 World Championship|Original 2022 EC Marin Šego (34)|Marin Šego (35)|Matej Mandić (19)
Matej Ašanin (26)|Ivan Pešić (31)
|Ivan Pešić (32) (no third goalkeeper)
|Mate Šunjić (33)
|Mate Šunjić (34) Marko Mamić (25)|Marko Mamić (26)|Marko Mamić (27) Matej Hrstić (23)|Halil Jaganjac (22)
|Halil Jaganjac (23) Josip Šarac (21)|Josip Šarac (22)|Lovro Mihić (27)
Valentino Ravnić (24)|Luka Šebetić (26)
|Luka Šebetić (27) David Mandić (22)|David Mandić (23)|David Mandić (24) Domagoj Duvnjak (31)|Domagoj Duvnjak (32)|Domagoj Duvnjak (33) Igor Karačić (31)|Igor Karačić (32)|Ante Gadža (29)
Luka Cindrić (26)|Luka Cindrić (27)|Luka Cindrić (28) Željko Musa (34)|Željko Musa (35)|Leon Šušnja (28)
Marino Marić (29)|Marino Marić (30)|Nikola Grahovac (23)
Ilija Brozović (28)|Ilija Brozović (29)|Zvonimir Srna (24)
Marin Šipić (23)|Marin Šipić (24)|Marin Šipić (25) Luka Stepančić (29)|Ivan Čupić (34)
|Ivan Čupić (35) Zlatko Horvat (35)|Zlatko Horvat (36)|Filip Glavaš (24)
Vlado Matanović (24)|Ivan Martinović (23)
|Ivan Martinović (24) (only 17 players)
|Manuel Štrlek (32)
|(only 18 players) (only 17 players)
|Janko Kević (34)
|(only 18 players)
Now we have the most recent squads as well. So, what can we say now? First of all, as a bit of an introduction, I'd like to point out that Croatian handball, simply the playing style, has at times seemed stuck in the mid-2000s, like every other country evolved and caught up with the times, but Croatia is still living in the past and trying to make it work. This was best seen in 2021, when teams like Japan and Argentina, with less individual skill, completely outplayed Croatia because of the way they played. And when Croatia starts losing unexpectedly, it rarely recovers…
Looking at the 2020 team again, there aren't too many similarities to 1996, so not many connections can be made. This post is too long already, but I was planning to include a few early 2010s squads as well, simply to show how little player retention there was – other than the core, the key players (who usually left in their early 30s anyway, bar some random comebacks like Vori's) who usually stayed the same, pretty much everyone else did 3-4 tournaments and then vanished, basically forever. While this isn't too different from what happened between 1999 and the late 2000s, the biggest difference is that more players were together for longer there, gathered experience together, developed together and grew as a team. Recent Croatian teams look like they're attempting a generational switch every few tournaments, but always do it 1998-style, stubbornly and not letting the players develop (or sometimes, the players are only there to get sold anyway). Look at the difference between 2020 and 2021: the players brought to be the ''next generation'' barely played, weren't given many chances, weren't too impressive and got replaced – Hrstić, Šarac, Ravnić and Matanović were all gone. But then, I also disagree with myself a bit, because who knows if these players had the potential to be good? Their replacements, which include a desperate return from Čupić, the long-awaited return of Štrlek, and a few young players who were deemed more promising like Martinović and Jaganjac, seemed better at the time… and a year later, other than the ever-mediocre Šebetić and called-too-late-to-make-an-impact Kević, these decisions don't even seem too bad. Hell, not even those two were bad. So how did a very similar, maybe even better squad come 2nd in 2020 and 15th in 2021?
I said it earlier, didn't I? The playstyle… he is a legend, but Červar seemed a bit out of his depth in 2021, and Croatia looked uninspired, dead and stuck in some ancient time, like 2004. Some players also seemed tired and overused (Duvnjak), some players got into fights with the national team staff over being treated unfairly in the media (Cindrić), and all of these things ended up leading to that awful finish. And while this was a shock, and people were understandably angry – we can see above that something similar already happened in 1997! A very similar squad which played in a final the year before suddenly underperformed due to various factors. I blamed the coach in 1997 because I'm not quite familiar with what happened there and I can't find news from back then, but it seems like an extremely similar situation. And I don't know if people were calling for the team to change after 1997… but Hrvoje Horvat decided to switch it around for 2022. Or he would have, if all the external factors didn't strike.
Looking at the original 2022 squad, we notice a few examples of something mentioned before. Šego reached 36, and as amazing as he was, and even though he's almost certainly Croatia's best goalkeeper at the moment, he was cut due to being too old. He was considered 6th choice at best, behind Pešić, Šunjić, young Mandić, Pilipović who was waiting for his Austria commitment to expire and Kuzmanović; and who knows, he did claim he was injured after probably feeling insulted, but it's possible he was already behind Alilović in the pecking order anyway. The long-retired Alilović.
And it isn't just Šego: Štrlek, who had just returned, was forced out due to being 33. Karačić, who reached the same age, got the same treatment – but he at least made the external list. Željko Musa is 36, and he was probably the best Croatian player in his position at the actual tournament, being called up due to positive tests, playing one near-flawless game and being sent home due to testing positive himself… but remember, he's 36, he originally wasn't consider either, because apparently he's ancient and can't play anymore. Hell, Marino Marić is 31 and he wasn't considered either. Ilija Brozović is 30 and he was seemingly forgotten about, as he wasn't even mentioned among the 40+ players who ended up playing. And honestly, he two ''survivors'', Čupić and Duvnjak, will probably go soon as well. Čupić could do one more tournament, maybe two, but he'll probably go the Horvat way and retire honourably before being forced out; but Duvnjak is looking more and more likely to get the Balić treatment and a thank you note at 33, especially considering he didn't even end up playing this year due to various reasons.
Before I wrap this up with a conclusion, I want to mention the goalkeeper situation. Croatian goalkeepers were among the worst at the 2022 EC… but sadly, while Croatia had an abundance of goalkeepers in the early 2000s, there don't seem to be many good ones now; and it seems like the average ones, like Pešić and Šunjić, will have to be the last line of defence for a few more years, unlike something changes and Mandić and Kuzmanović start suddenly developing – and actually playing for the national team. And where is Filip Ivić? Well, just a distant memory at this point… yet only 29 years of age.
So, for real now, what can be said? Well, with inclusions like Mihić, Gadža and Šušnja, I can tell you that 1996-1997-1998 and 2020-2021-2022 have some very interesting parallels, but sadly aren't similar enough to claim that Croatia will be world champion again in 5 years' time. I personally think this 2022 (original) squad was the wrong move, because with all due respect to the current generation of youngsters, they don't seem to be as impactful as the 2003 generation, and many players who still have a role to play in the national team were dropped way too early due to one bad tournament. However, if the federation wants to do it like this, I won't stop them… but if they keep the same approach of completely rebuilding the squad every few years, the drought Croatia goes through may be worse than 7 big tournaments. The current squad isn't that similar to the 1998 one, but if the federation and the coach want to make the squad younger for good and start work on the new generation, trying to build a new 2003-style generation… who am I to stop them? Because who knows, even though I personally don't prefer that approach and don't think it's the same situation, I may also be wrong – because what if I'm wrong, what if holding onto old but good players is the wrong move? Croatia isn't France, Germany or Spain, it won't be able to spawn a new generation of top players when the current 30+ year olds retire, whether that's in 6, 8 or 10 years, and it may need to do generational switches to survive. But I certainly won't hide how disappointing it is to see players like Karačić, Musa and Marić get dropped for Gadža, Šušnja and Srna, when they still had a lot to offer if utilised properly – perhaps they could've gotten another medal or two.
Well, let's analyse the other approach as well. If we compare it to the 1998 and 2002 squads, we can see that players like Martinović, Šipić (even though he isn't very good, and in my humble opinion isn't NT starter calibre), Jaganjac and Mandić should become the core, as they're young players with some international experience. We also see that young players should be introduced slowly, but immediately to the first team – and Lučin in 2022 isn't a bad start, even though that was accidental in a way. And if the coach, whether it's Horvat or someone else, can consistently replace 2-3 players who are getting older or simply aren't good enough for the national team with 20-22 year olds every year and actually keep those youngsters in the squad, giving them minutes and letting them grow together, then who knows, maybe Croatia manages to build the same sort of generation again – but the fans would have to get used to underperforming for 4-5 years, maybe even failing to qualify a few times like Poland did recently. Because when so many other nations are getting stronger as well, you will be punished for slowing down for a bit… but if done right, it could lead you to the top. But can this be done right, or will it be half-assed if attempted… we'll have to see in the future. Because as I said, if done wrong, if the entire squad is amateurishly reshuffled every few years and not given the opportunity to gel, it could lead to a much longer drought this time. Even longer than if the same old players played without youngsters getting a real opportunity - which makes it extremely high risk, in my opinion. Conclusion?
Well, I said a lot, but also a whole lot of nothing. I just tried to compare the historical squads of Croatia to the current one, because I noticed how people were grouping in one of two factions - either claiming the best players have to play, as old as they are, or claiming that the trigger has to be pulled for real and that Croatia needs to fully concentrate on the future. I didn't offer much of a perspective either, I just rambled on a bit - but I came to the idea of comparing the last 3 squads to the 1996-1998 run, as there were some interesting similarities in performances, and felt the need to express it.
I also disagreed with myself many times, because it's very confusing overall, but also because I'm (like many followers of the Croatian team) unsure what has to be done... other than the obvious ''sack the federation, stop scapegoating coaches'', which we all know and love. The comparison to 1998 was meant to open my eyes when I started researching it, but it just made me more confused when I analysed the other squads as well, because it sent me in two directions - either the lazier way of reshuffling the squad with many older players in 1998 actually contributed, as it meant only a few young players were introduced every tournament, just enough to integrate into the squad without leaving someone out, and even though 1998 may have failed (Baltić/PaljaBjeliš), 1999 (Dominiković/Zrnić/Valčić) ended up amazing - risks had to be taken, and they paid off in most cases. But there's also the option that the lazier approach in 1998 slowed the team down, maybe all 6 of the players I named here could've been introduced in 1998 to replace some of the older players who made their debuts/returned, maybe if the faster approach was taken Croatia could've won in 2001 instead of 2003, and had a shorter drought?
And comparing this to present day - we saw that the original 2022 squad was closer to the lazier 1998 approach, but the post-tournament one, with 40+ players, seems like it could possibly head in the other, hypothetical quicker 1998 approach. With a different generation of young players which may not be as talented as the 2003 generation, would the same approach work? But then again, I forgot to mention that this generation of players came 2nd at the U21 world cup a few years ago... and I may be looking at the 2003 generation with nostalgia goggles, maybe the new ones are equally talented, or more talented? There are so many variables in this equation, and I'm too stupid and uneducated to come to one conclusion. I hope my rambles help you, dear reader, come to a better one.
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I recently moved to a new state, but I still consider the doctor from my old state to be my PCP so I haven't found new physician yet. I plan to fly to my old state for my annual exam in two months, but I might have to see someone here about this back pain.
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2022.01.27 20:33 Awesomecrafter64 Roast beef w/ BBQ sauce, rice w/ cauliflower & beans, and a Zucchini, I think?
2022.01.27 20:33 marcoloves Has anyone tried Sega Saturn or dreamcast?
I know the console is not strong enough I'd just like to see how it performs on those. Thanks
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2022.01.27 20:33 DemUnderground LGBTQ+ Books Quietly Pulled From Washington State Middle School
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2022.01.27 20:33 AztecPaulG Episode 4 of The SDSU Football Podcast
2022.01.27 20:33 yoda_pp I wish my bf wasn’t so _____.
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2022.01.27 20:33 Ok-Salamander-2787 Fully vaxxed woman’s pregnancy had to be induced early because her placenta is deteriorating.Similar story of other women in her pregnancy group.Is the jab causing this?
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2022.01.27 20:33 maax64000 Display webcam with chat command ?
Hi, I'm sorry if the question has already been answered here but I can't find informations about how to toggle display of a multimedia file source (It is my phone streaming its video to my PC with Streamlabs app).
I currently have the video working but I'd like to display it for a certain amount of time with a chat command to avoid occupying the whole screen with webcams...
I saw the Cloudbot's commands but I can't find how to link them to videos sources in SLOBS Desktop.
Do you have any idea how to do so ? Thanks in advance ! :)
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2022.01.27 20:33 Lil_Turtle15 Should I get this emote? Just got 250 gems and don’t know if it’s worth it
2022.01.27 20:33 Ballbearian good job man
2022.01.27 20:33 notsogingerbreadman 4k/60hz && 1080p/144hz Docking station for 2021 MBP
Trying to get my MacBook pro to output 4k60hz and 1080p144hz while in clamshell mode. The dock I'm using (see below) is only able to mirror the 1080p screen to both the 1080p and 4k screens. On my LG 4k screen, there's an OSD popup that says "out of range". The only way I'm able to get my setup to work is if I plug 1 external monitor to the MacBook directly and leave the other monitor's HDMI connected to the dock.
TLDR: Looking for a dock that can support power delivery, ethernet, USB 2 or 3 port, and can output to 1080p/144hz AND 4k60hz. Can be either thunderbolt 3 or 4 (not picky, unless that's the cause of problem?)
Mac: Macbook Pro 2021 M1 Pro
4k Monitor: LG 27UK850
1080p Monitor: Acer XF270H
Current dock: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CV73ZC2/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_glt_i_76Z5YYW907C45Z7B77YJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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2022.01.27 20:33 LennieMay [F4M] Business Man x Slut ( No Limits - Longterm )
Business Man x Sub ( Dom x Sub world )
The world we lived in was separated by 2 groups of people; doms & subs. At birth, you’re either tattooed with a ‘D’ for dominant, or ‘S’ for submissive on the inside of your left wrist, and well, that really chose the direction of your entire life.
once a month, a public auction would be held for any sub turning 18 that month. Bets where placed, and the highest bidder took home their new little pet, toy, slave- whatever they wanted.
On the day of my 18th birthday, you came to the auction and hand chose me. I was cheap due to my attitude and vulgar mouth, but you were sure you could fix that. You were a handsome man, named colson, but you usually went by Kells. You were 6”4, 31 years old. You had dyed blonde hair and tattoos from your neck down to your toes. Any sun would be lucky to have you.
You worked at some big company in a big building, and you where pretty high up. You had your own big office on the top floor and bossed around many people. You were even able to bring me to work with you every single day, where I’d sit under your desk, and suck your cock whenever you wanted, or more.
It was a win win situation for you, and you couldn’t pass it up. Soon enough, we were on our way home for our first night, before heading off to work in the morning where I’d start getting use to my new life as your submissive slut.
You’ll be playing a tall blonde white male covered neck to toe in tattoos. He has blue eyes, and is very skinny. He goes by the name Kells most of the time, but his real name is Colson
My name is Lennon, but I usually go by Lennie. I’ll be 18 In the rp (but 20 in real life). My breasts are size 36C & I’m quite a small girl. I’m very skinny and short. My hair is always dyed some bright colour and I have blue eyes.
IM A SUB - so basically, don’t message me if you are also a sub, cause I’m not interested in being your mistress or whatever. I am also extremely kinky, but looking for some sort of a storyline to go with all the sexual acts among this rp.
- my kik - @huskyshepardmix -
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2022.01.27 20:33 Retrocandycorn Parents of Reddit, have you shown your kid/s any of your childhood shows/movies?
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2022.01.27 20:33 OpenSeaXPoster FREE NFT (xpost from /r/opensea)
2022.01.27 20:33 RedFrost4532 My room is a mess
2022.01.27 20:33 DemUnderground About adults controlling what children read.: I am watching the growing insanity
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2022.01.27 20:33 kybergod When will society respect scientists, and why?
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2022.01.27 20:33 SpoZo91 Fuck the mods
2022.01.27 20:33 Either_Run_5837 ✅✅✅SINGLE & UNIQUE ✅✅✅ Commission of a new large operatic work
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